2019: It, is a tall dream for APC to
govern Delta -Oru
Chief Andrew Oru is a chieftaincy of the
People's Democratic Party (PDP) in Delta State and he also a force to reckon
with in Delta State.In this interview with Isoko Mirror,he x-rays the politics
of Delta.
Excerpts:
Sir, a lot of people say Oru has been
silent over national issues specifically in Delta State.What is responsible for
such silent?
Well, it is the
same way they think I have been become silent that I have always thought that
most of these people have never tried to talk .
Erring views on
national issues and issue that concern us especially as a people in Delta State
is not the responsibility of myself and a few others .
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Chief Andrew Oru |
Everybody has the
same responsibility to talk in order to be able to shape up the polity properly.
Be that as it
may, my being kind of silent for a while now is because of the way things have
turned out to be as in major disappointment not only on the part of those who
are governing but also principally on the part of those who are governed.
I am angry with
those who are governing for misgovernance and I am also angry at those who
governed for reticence and that is the bane upon which all these issues of
corruption and all of that remain solidly built.
A people deserve
the kind of leadership they get.When you are not ready to stand up and talk, what
do you expect?
When you begin to
throw stones and missiles at those who are speaking on your behalf because you
want to be able to get one or two little favours for yourself which has no way
of impacting on your future, then, who is that person that has time to waste?
But,I can assure
you that I have never failed to give myself a stop every now and then to
think over and over on the state of our people in terms of the debilitating
poverty that you read on their faces anytime you happen to be around that
environment.
It is a pity and
a shame. I tried to keep quiet and see what I could personally do to ameliorate
the condition of those who come around me specifically.
But,I came back
with the conclusion that it wasn't just the direction to go because I am just
one person and my resources are also limited.
There is a saying
that individually we can fight alone but collectively we conquer.
I am happy with
the current trend of events that are beginning to shape up in terms of the
awareness being created now from the national discourse which I believe will
trickle down to the politics in Delta State in particular.
Politics in Delta
has more or less been a politics of gangsterism ,clannishness and exclusion.
But,there are
certain national issues now that appear to be wanting to galvanise every nook
and cranny together to have a common position on national discourse and which
will definitely affect the way forward politically for Deltans .
Can you highlight some of those
national issues that will trickle down on governance or Deltans that you
envisage?
You see, as you
are very well know,I am an unrepentant personality within the enclave of the
party.
But, as all
Deltans and Nigerians also know,I am one person who is excluded from this talk
of anti party.
You know me very
well,whether you are in PDP or APC,if you are a bad material,I will shout
.If you are a good material,I will present you irrespective of my personal
political leaning .
I remain
steadfast within the PDP not because the PDP has done well in Delta or because
it did well nationally before now.
I am aware that
politics in Nigeria has no foundation in ideology. If you call all the
respective chairmen of the political parties in Nigeria together and ask them
to name the other political parties, apart from their own political party, they
cannot.
How do they know
that the other political parties ideology is different from their own?
So, it doesn't
make sense to shift from one party to the other .What I have seen about Nigeria
politics is that people shift not because the party has breached the ideology
or the purported ideology of the party. The people shift because they are
unable to have their individual way within the party.
They are unable
to fulfil their individual dreams, aspirations and political ambitions within
the same party. So, they jump and that is why you can see somebody of the PDP
today, tomorrow he is jumping to APC, next week he is back in the PDP. It,s all
nonsense to me. It doesn't make sense for me to mess up myself by jumping to
another party and that is why I am still in the PDP.
As for the APC, I
don’t want to say there is APC in Delta State because they have never be in
government. The APC nationally has been a collosal failure, it has been a
disaster .
I was not among
those who was fooled to think that the APC was going to do anything.
However, I was
quite certain that there would be a little departure from the past in terms of
impunity, personal aggrandizement and all that nonsense.
Unfortunately, the
same people who did the nonsense when they were in the PDP ate the ones who are
now in the APC.
So, I lost hope
but I didn't talk. I said let me give them (APC) a chance, after all, Saul
became Paul in the Bible, maybe, they are now going to be changed.
But, today, the
story is different like you know. Because of the woeful failure of the APC at
the national level now, it is going to trickle down to the politics of
different states and certainly, you can't take it away.
One of the major issues
upon which the APC purportedly rode to power was the lack of good security for
Nigerians.
I don't need to
tell you that the APC has performed worse than the former president, Dr.
Goodlick Jonathan, Most saddening is the fact that bad performance of (APC) is
not because Nigerians didn't give them all the co-operation. It is not because
the infrastructure upon which to tell the people is not there .It is cheekily a
matter of a section of this country, a religious section of this country in
particular to foist their beliefs and ways of life on other parts of the
country.
They have chosen
to use the instrument purportedly nicknamed Fulani herdsmen.
What are you
talking about Fulani herdsmen? Is this the first time we are seeing Fulani
herdsmen in this country?
The answer is no.
Why is it (Fulani herdsmen) suddenly a big issue? Why are we suddenly talking of colonies and all that? The agenda
is very clear, they want to Islamise Nigeria. What happened in Kwara State
where you now have an Emir of Ilorin in a Yoruba environment is that what we
want to enact all over the country.
I am happy that
the issue (Fulani herdsmen) has brought all Deltans and the individual
statesmen in unison.
They now see a
common enemy .The issue of ordinary clannishness is going to take a back stage
and that is why I said issues at the national level will definitely affect
issues at the state level.
When the
so-called Fulani herdsmen are coming with the AK 47 provided by the Federal Government
(FG), it's agencies, the tacit encouragement and the cover given to them (Fulani
herdsmen)they don't discriminate among an Urhobo, Ijaw and Itsekiri man.
They (Fulani
herdsmen) just come, kill, everybody and take over lands from everywhere. It
has become a kind of unifying factor and which means that the APC coming to the
national level has been the problem of this country. This was not the situation
under Jonathan, the PDP government and I doubt, if it would be the same if any
other party comes on board other than this parochial Buhari that we are seeing,
this wicked man call Buhari that we are seeing is the man who has destroyed
Nigeria on the platform of the APC.
The APC has a lot
of work to do in Delta Central or anywhere. I do not think that the PDP
government in Delta State and other areas may have performed excellently .If
the APC in Delta State wants to do anything, they have to prove seriously that
their line of thinking is different from the way APC at the national level is
thinking in terms of security, poverty alleviation, infrastructural development
is the problem. There is no reference point for the APC in Delta State and
other States now. The only reference point they (APC) would have had was
that look at us at the national level, we are doing serious infrastructural
development and there is electricity everywhere now.
But, there is no
such reference point for them (APC) anymore because they have never been in
government .So, they(APC) have no reference point and it is a pity.
I know some of
the individuals in the APC, they mean well and they are good people. But, they
(some APC individuals) have a problem on their neck and that is the national
leadership which is above them.
If they (some APC
individuals) can remove themselves from the APC and go and join the coalition
that Chief Olusegun Obasanjo and others are talking about, that may be an
escape for them.
But, to think
that they (some APC individuals) want to come to power on the strength or the
back of APC in Delta State, it is a tall dream and that is the way I see it.
You ran for an elective position few
years back, are we expecting you to run for an election this time around?
Let me tell you, that
time you are talking about, you know exactly what happened.
It is not as if I
woke up and say I was running for an elective office. You remember very well
the circumstances that brought me into trying to to get the PDP ticket.It was
simply because in 2011 elections ,when the former Governor of Delta State, Dr. Emmanuel
Uduaghan and I met, it was a common knowledge.We tried to agree on who we
should recommend to be the Senator of the Delta Central.
We had a
disagreement because he(Uduaghan) wanted to impose certain persons and I
refused. We (I and Uduaghan) had a kind of bet that if he(Uduaghan) should try
it, I would sabotage the PDP. When he (Uduaghan) tried it ,I nominated and sent
out text messages that the people should vote across party lines for the
Democratic People's Party(DPP) candidate at that time, late Senator Pius
Ewherido.For the first time,the PDP lost their Senatorial district because of
what I did. Unfortunately, when Ewherido died two years later, there was a lot
of pressure on me. My traditional ruler and everybody wanted me to come into
this and I reluctantly went and I said okay, let me go and complete
his(Ewherido) tenure.
Unfortunately,
Jonathan with his two left legs as the President of the Federal Republic of
Nigeria felt that election was a do or die thing for him.
He(Jonathan) came
and oppressed Uduaghan based on what Uduaghan told me that it was the
ex-president that ordered him(Uduaghan)that Chief Emmanuel Aguariavwodo must be
the Candidate. You know every other person withdrew and I refused to withdraw
and the rest is history.
It wasn't as if I
was angling personally originally for an elective office.
Really speaking, I
have never believe that going into an elective office has been the issue. I
thought I could guide the process from outside. At the time I made that try, it
was just okay.
Let,s face it, at
this time now that we are talking of the youths coming into national politics
and all that ,will it make sense for me at this point now to go and start
contesting for any election? I am about 60 years old already ,if I add
eight years to my age ,I am heading towards 70 years already.
So,when am I going to retire from
politics and business?When will it be the turn of the younger ones? I have sons who are already old
enough to contest for those offices.I know younger boys like you and others who
are strong and old enough to contest for such offices.
I would rather
support you from behind.
I would rather
project you if I find you worthy than for me to go for that right now.
Really speaking, there
is a lot of pressure on me even right now to come and run for elective office.
I can tell you
that the pressure is much and till date,I am resisting the pressure and that is
the truth.
Will you yield to such pressure at the
end of the day?
I doubt it very
much. I have a lot of businesses that I have to attend to right now and I have a
busy time. Particularly, I want the youths to come on board now because our
generation is on our way out right now. If we remain till the time we will go
out, who would be in charge thereafter without any experience? Nobody. We won't
have anybody with any experience on board and this is my fear.
There is going to
be a lacuna and I don't want to be part of that charade. I don't want to be
part of that nonsense and that is why I am staying away strongly. Unless there
is a situation where I find out that a horrible character is emerging in my
Constituency again like it almost happened that time, and I find out that it is
a challenge and I am the only person who can handle it, I may reluctantly go
for it. You know my coming stopped that person Uduaghan was recommending .I
think I am in the position these days to help to ensure that such things don't
happen even without personal contest.